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a candidate that perhaps karl rove will steer away from. paul broun, the georgia congressman running to replace saxby chambliss, and "the times" pointed out today, quote, mr. broun, a physician on the house science, space, and technology committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that, quote, evolution, embryology, and the big bang theory, all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell. i'll bet that plays well in his congressional district, but my hunch is that's not playing well even in a conservative state like georgia when you're talking statewide in the general. what do you say? >> well, of course, paul is going to get a lot of competition in that primary fight. you're going to be looking at guys like tom price and tom graves who have an incredibly strong record of fiscal conservatism. i think the core of the tea party, remember, is not social issues, it's not abortion, it's not immigration, it's not these other things. it's whether or not we should spend money we don't have. it's whether or not the government should live w
a candidate that perhaps karl rove will steer away from. paul broun, the georgia congressman running to replace saxby chambliss, and "the times" pointed out today, quote, mr. broun, a physician on the house science, space, and technology committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that, quote, evolution, embryology, and the big bang theory, all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell. i'll bet that plays well in his congressional district, but my hunch is that's not...
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you're karl rove. not a good guy necessarily, but a smart guy. you're haley barbour. you're chris christie, one of these thoughtful people in the republican party you can argue. how are you going to stop these people from running if fay want to? >> cash. >> how do you stop them if they have money behind them? >> money talk, right? in f you don't want this guy to win and you've got the koch brothers and you have allison there, that's why they have a pac, right? >> that worked well for romney. here is the deal money can't buy you, authenticity. >> they're authentic, i hate to tell you. they're the real thing. >> they're authentic to the point where -- if you're authentic in your irrationality, great. you'll appeal to the irrational people. but when this guy says the earth was formed -- hold on. when the earth was formed 9,000 years ago and we started farming 10,000 years ago, it's insane. >> we have to come back to the fact that they have a base, that people like this have been elected. >> exactly. they have been. >> you know, i look at mourdock, he won. i like at akin,
you're karl rove. not a good guy necessarily, but a smart guy. you're haley barbour. you're chris christie, one of these thoughtful people in the republican party you can argue. how are you going to stop these people from running if fay want to? >> cash. >> how do you stop them if they have money behind them? >> money talk, right? in f you don't want this guy to win and you've got the koch brothers and you have allison there, that's why they have a pac, right? >> that...
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and so it's very easy for karl rove to saunter in and say oh, well, we'll stop this. you can't fight something with nothing. he did not back a single winning candidate last year. so what is going to happen? that is the republican party. that's why they win primaries, and the republican party has a more serious problem, which is that's 30% of the country that holds those views, maybe more or less. they can win primaries. they can never win national elections. but what is this republican establishment that rove represents? it's money people. but where are the voters within the republican party. it's not just tea party, it's the real base of the republican party whether they call themselves tea partiers or not. this is what they want. >> i was struck by how unified the reaction against rove was on the right. i mean, all of the influential -- all of the right-wing blogs that are influential enough that a liberal like me knows to go read them. >> right. >> all of them unified with being just disgusted with karl rove for having suggested this. it seems as though this is a v
and so it's very easy for karl rove to saunter in and say oh, well, we'll stop this. you can't fight something with nothing. he did not back a single winning candidate last year. so what is going to happen? that is the republican party. that's why they win primaries, and the republican party has a more serious problem, which is that's 30% of the country that holds those views, maybe more or less. they can win primaries. they can never win national elections. but what is this republican...
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karl rove thinks that, marc marco rubio thinks that. it's not guilty aboutish issues, like you just said. when you look at, hogan, the war on women and the legislation they passed in certain states against women's right to choose, it wasn't that women were objecting to the tone, they were objecting to the policy. when you look at they're closing planned parenthood, let's go to a judge. let's teal with the fact that you have a man named paul brown who announced today his bid for the georgia senate. this is a guy who calls evolution and the big bang theory live straight from the pit of health. he sug jeszed the president abide by the soviet constitution and he called snookie more substantive than the president of the united states. he might say it with a better tone, but how do you take this out there and act like this is something that the american public can even entertain having to represent them in a senate or any other office. >> well, it's not. but those aren't the tenants of the republican party. but this is an out liar trying to t
karl rove thinks that, marc marco rubio thinks that. it's not guilty aboutish issues, like you just said. when you look at, hogan, the war on women and the legislation they passed in certain states against women's right to choose, it wasn't that women were objecting to the tone, they were objecting to the policy. when you look at they're closing planned parenthood, let's go to a judge. let's teal with the fact that you have a man named paul brown who announced today his bid for the georgia...
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karl rove's super pack is already launching a preemptive attack against the actress. take a look. >> you know what this country really needs? an independent voice for obama. >> i am committed to president obama and vice president biden. i think he's a brilliant man. he is now able to flower more as the president i knew he could be. >> a leader who knows how to follow. >> i will go wherever the president wants me to go. >> someone who will never forget where she came from. >> and it just clicked, tennessee is home. and it just clicked -- >> kentucky. >> is home. >> someone from out of state who understands us. >> i don't know about a hillbilly's who golf. hillbilly's. >> her own grandmother says she's a hollywood liberal. but isn't that what we need? ashley judd, an obama following radical hollywood liberal who's right at home here in tennessee -- i mean kentucky. >> now i think that was karl rove's voice there when it said kentucky. he's -- he knows how to cut a political ad. i guess she's going to have to throw the towel in after that. this is part of a $10,000 media
karl rove's super pack is already launching a preemptive attack against the actress. take a look. >> you know what this country really needs? an independent voice for obama. >> i am committed to president obama and vice president biden. i think he's a brilliant man. he is now able to flower more as the president i knew he could be. >> a leader who knows how to follow. >> i will go wherever the president wants me to go. >> someone who will never forget where she...
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don't rely on a karl rove or reince priebus. the state chairman really has the opportunity to vet the candidates up front and to build the party from the bottom up and inviting those activists who are frustrated to be a part of the process. >> how do you democrats exploit this? we have the republican establishment disdainful of its right wing and trying to prevent it from getting any candidacies. >> how do we exploit it? >> yeah. >> you remember the old rule from lee at water, when the component is self-destructing get out of the way. >> that goes back to napoleon. >> for the democrats, you watch these guys and you see on the one hand they have lost the middle which is great for the democratic party because everything they lose we pick up. on the other hand, they're attacking their base which is going to result in not victories for moderate candidates who can win general elections but it's going to result in right wing candidates getting their backs up, getting in these primaries, and they're low turnout primaries and they win a
don't rely on a karl rove or reince priebus. the state chairman really has the opportunity to vet the candidates up front and to build the party from the bottom up and inviting those activists who are frustrated to be a part of the process. >> how do you democrats exploit this? we have the republican establishment disdainful of its right wing and trying to prevent it from getting any candidacies. >> how do we exploit it? >> yeah. >> you remember the old rule from lee at...
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how dare karl rove and his money guys try to do any such thing. and so yes, paul broun and steve king may be the prototypical examples of the kind of off the cooke end candidates that karl rove and the big money guys do not want in republican politics, because those are the kind of guys that lose senate seats that are otherwise winnable. but karl rove and his money guys kind of stand alone in that assessment. the rest of the party wants that. they want those guys. and they want it not naively. they know what they are getting. steve king and paul broun have been around for a long time. when the party stands up and says these are the guys they want, they know who they're talking about. they know who these guys are. and it is what they choose. so if you were a republican party stalwart, if you were part of the republican party and you loved the republican party and you wanted what was best for the republican party, what would you do at a time like this? what would you say? how would you try to fix this problem? well, today in washington house majorit
how dare karl rove and his money guys try to do any such thing. and so yes, paul broun and steve king may be the prototypical examples of the kind of off the cooke end candidates that karl rove and the big money guys do not want in republican politics, because those are the kind of guys that lose senate seats that are otherwise winnable. but karl rove and his money guys kind of stand alone in that assessment. the rest of the party wants that. they want those guys. and they want it not naively....
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gop donors are turning to karl rove to help weed out far right candidates in upcoming races. really? isn't he the guy who blew $300 million in the last election? whose super pac had a 1% success rate? yeah, that guy. and, boy is the tea party upset. freedom works slammed rove's group saying the empire is striking back. calling him orwellian. it's full-on gop warfare. it's gop civil war. joining me now is michael steele and dana millbank. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> good to see you, rev. >> michael, karl rove to save the party from the tea party, do you buy it? >> no, i don't. and i don't think many of the not just tea parties, but grass roots conservatives will. instead of taking those dollars out of the states and hunkering them down here in a newly created super pac in washington, how about investing in the state party organizations around the country to help them build the farm team that is going to be required to win in the future. this is not an overnight success deal, reverend. you cannot come from the s shellacking of '06 and '12 and throw dollars
gop donors are turning to karl rove to help weed out far right candidates in upcoming races. really? isn't he the guy who blew $300 million in the last election? whose super pac had a 1% success rate? yeah, that guy. and, boy is the tea party upset. freedom works slammed rove's group saying the empire is striking back. calling him orwellian. it's full-on gop warfare. it's gop civil war. joining me now is michael steele and dana millbank. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >>...
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karl rove wants to keep the fringies. and things like clinton did with school uniforms. and tell college students the jobs might be tough. what about the gun issue? should the republicans stick with the nra or tell wayne lapierre to get a real job? how could a party built other the decades on the people who left the democrats abandon those issues that attracted the rule south and the west people and the miners and the ranchers and the gun owners. and the people furious about immigration. how do you ban those people and keep a party? tonight an expert, a passionate believer that politics can get better. my colleague joe scarborough. here's the question. how do you keep this huge tent the republican party has built in the last 30 or 40 years with people from the south, the west, the miners, the ranchers, the religious right, all those people that have decided the republican party is their natural home and yet you have people in the fringe costing you your image. >> well, you've got to stand up to people on the fringe. you know, when parties go extreme they get roundly defe
karl rove wants to keep the fringies. and things like clinton did with school uniforms. and tell college students the jobs might be tough. what about the gun issue? should the republicans stick with the nra or tell wayne lapierre to get a real job? how could a party built other the decades on the people who left the democrats abandon those issues that attracted the rule south and the west people and the miners and the ranchers and the gun owners. and the people furious about immigration. how do...
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actress ashley judd has not officially decided to run for senate, but she is being targeted by karl rove. and by rove super pac is hitting the air in kentucky. >> a leader who knows how to follow am. >> i will go wherever the president wants me to go. >> she will never forget where she came from. >> it clicked. tennessee is home. it just clicked. >> kentucky -- >> is home. >> florida governor rick scott is preparing for the most expensive reelection in history. scott is prepared to spent, listen to this, $100 million in 2014. scott is fighting low approval ratings and possible run by former governor charlie crist. the freshman class of the 113th congress wants to get the new session off on the right foot to encourage more bipartisanship. president of the classes say they are going bowling together. the texas representative said he is in on the challenge and modestly challenges to bowl a solid 100. we will see. the former secretary is planning to write a book. he will be meeting with publishers with an eye for publication next year. those are the things we thought you should know. that wi
actress ashley judd has not officially decided to run for senate, but she is being targeted by karl rove. and by rove super pac is hitting the air in kentucky. >> a leader who knows how to follow am. >> i will go wherever the president wants me to go. >> she will never forget where she came from. >> it clicked. tennessee is home. it just clicked. >> kentucky -- >> is home. >> florida governor rick scott is preparing for the most expensive reelection in...
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we saw karl rove come out. he's talking about raising money to bring more moderate republicans out. the problem is it will intensify a civil war at least in terms of policy as we hear more and more details. >> that's exactly right. and we're already sort of seeing that play out with the immigration debate. you know, it all sounds good to say okay we have to solve the problem and to spell out broad principles. but when you actually get down to what are we going to do about the people that are here. how are we going to come up with a path to citizenship that makes sense and is fair and respects the fact that we are a nation of immigrants and a nation of laws when you get down to the specifics there's a huge split in the party. >> where we find the common ground. abby, you quoted your father as saying compromise is krital to fixing the gop. the quote was in my party compromise cannot be seen as analogous to treason. which it has been seen recently. your daddy was right. i love quoting your daddy to you. i want somebody to do that to my daughters develop ahead. >> it's compromise but it
we saw karl rove come out. he's talking about raising money to bring more moderate republicans out. the problem is it will intensify a civil war at least in terms of policy as we hear more and more details. >> that's exactly right. and we're already sort of seeing that play out with the immigration debate. you know, it all sounds good to say okay we have to solve the problem and to spell out broad principles. but when you actually get down to what are we going to do about the people that...
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we see that reflected in karl rove's new group. but the result is very bad for the american people because it means that we're not able the move forward in the house of representatives on these very important measures. it's time for them to exert a little leadership instead of simply always pointing the finger at the president on these various issues, when in fact the president is taking action and simply allowing -- asking, thomas, for a vote on some of these things. i mean, our lrepublican colleagues in the house are free to vote against immigration reform. let's have a vote. >> great to see you. real quick, on a personal note, i know your dad passed away, the ambassador just recently, 90 years old. >> thank you, thomas. >> and my parents who grew up on lake avenue just down the street. so they know your family very well. but again, our deepest condolences to your and yours. thank you, sir. >> thank you, thomas. >> want to bring in our wednesday morning political power panel. we have joanne reid, doug thornell, republican strateg
we see that reflected in karl rove's new group. but the result is very bad for the american people because it means that we're not able the move forward in the house of representatives on these very important measures. it's time for them to exert a little leadership instead of simply always pointing the finger at the president on these various issues, when in fact the president is taking action and simply allowing -- asking, thomas, for a vote on some of these things. i mean, our lrepublican...
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karl rove said the american cross roads superpac is planning more ads attacking ashley judd. the democrat may be considering a run against senator republican leader mitch mcconnell. the superpac debuted an ad this week seeking to portray ashley judd as an inexperienced hollywood liberal who's not even a resident of kentucky. >>> a hacker apparently accessed private photos between both former presidents and claims to have a list of family addresses and phone numbers and e-mails. those are the things we just thought you should know. [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? your soups are so awesomely delicious my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that... on your head? can curlers! tomato basil, potato with bacon... we've got a lot of empty cans. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more... [ midwestern/chicago accent ] cheddar! yeah! 5
karl rove said the american cross roads superpac is planning more ads attacking ashley judd. the democrat may be considering a run against senator republican leader mitch mcconnell. the superpac debuted an ad this week seeking to portray ashley judd as an inexperienced hollywood liberal who's not even a resident of kentucky. >>> a hacker apparently accessed private photos between both former presidents and claims to have a list of family addresses and phone numbers and e-mails. those...
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entitled karl rove is done. reads in part this. now comes the likes of senators such as ted cruz of texas and rand paul of ken tuck tow challenge him. smart, angry and aspect establishment conservatives who loathe the country club types and want to remake the parties in the isolationist in the antisocial welfare and anti-tax image, conservatives have the right to ask the roves of the world to ask what the gopers have done to limit the reach of government and enhance the libertarian view of the world. the answer to the rand pauls of the world is nothing. >> that was a long paragraph. >> and you take a guy like ted cruise, he went it a community college in texas or was it harvard? this rove ad suggests quite a few things. mitch mcconnell is concerned about ashley judd. >> he is concerned in general. he is a power here in washington and who i covered back when he was county judge in louisville. he has never been wildly popular in the state. he always had a tough race even when he hasn't had significant opponents and he's on a fault li
entitled karl rove is done. reads in part this. now comes the likes of senators such as ted cruz of texas and rand paul of ken tuck tow challenge him. smart, angry and aspect establishment conservatives who loathe the country club types and want to remake the parties in the isolationist in the antisocial welfare and anti-tax image, conservatives have the right to ask the roves of the world to ask what the gopers have done to limit the reach of government and enhance the libertarian view of the...
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and blame republicans like karl rove demonizing tea party candidates. >>> jeff sessions says jack lew must never be treasury secretary. in a statement, sessions say lew would present a clear doing tore the economy and accused him of making false representations to congress. president obama nominated lew to replace outgoing secretary timothy geithner last month. at optionsxpress we're all about options trading. we create easy to use, powerful trading tools for all. look at these...
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. >>> karl rove has a new super pac but it's not being used against democrats. check out the headline. rove declares war on tea party. after embarrassing senate defeats in missouri and indiana, rove's american crossroads has created the conservative victory project. that's a group the "new york times" says will back candidates and incumbents from challenges by far right conservatives and the tea party. let's bring in former democratic congressman from pennsylvania, retired navy admiral joe sestak and we're also joined by republican strategist and former santorum senior strategist, john brabender. here's what steven law, president of american crossroads said. quote, there is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected. we don't view ourselves as being in the incumbent protection business but we want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win, end quote. is he right there, or is this an act of war like breitbart says in the headline? >> i don't think it's an act of war. what they're saying is
. >>> karl rove has a new super pac but it's not being used against democrats. check out the headline. rove declares war on tea party. after embarrassing senate defeats in missouri and indiana, rove's american crossroads has created the conservative victory project. that's a group the "new york times" says will back candidates and incumbents from challenges by far right conservatives and the tea party. let's bring in former democratic congressman from pennsylvania, retired...
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rove sitting in a room with a button pushing the diebold button, but because there were not enough voting machines, and people got disenfranchised because of it. >> and the secretary of state made a decision to reduce the number of voting machines which leads in part to the question that why is this partisan at all? your point, ari, that there was bipartisan support in 2004 for the early voting, and these sound like common sense kind of thing that don't require a partisan point of view. >> you make a good point and apple for example meets the consumer where it is, but the republicans do the complete and total opposite, because they are not interested in meeting the americans where they are, but in their restriction. it goes the show that my younger cow since live in florida and stood in line three hours and they are young, but when i think about my grandmother who lives there, did she stand in line for four hours? well, she did, because she a good democrat, but it paints a good picture of what the republican platform is about, and we have a big tent, but we don't care if there are chairs
rove sitting in a room with a button pushing the diebold button, but because there were not enough voting machines, and people got disenfranchised because of it. >> and the secretary of state made a decision to reduce the number of voting machines which leads in part to the question that why is this partisan at all? your point, ari, that there was bipartisan support in 2004 for the early voting, and these sound like common sense kind of thing that don't require a partisan point of view....